2 April 2025

77 thoughts on “2017-18 Winter League HDAFU Tables

  1. Mike,

    Everyone has their own preferred method. We use the last five seasons’ statistical data for every league we analyse – for a statistically significant pool of data.

    I would suggest that 1.5 seasons’ worth will provide too small a data set to see trends and to confirm them.

    With stakes, we use fixed stakes for backing and employ a ratchet method to slowly increase stakes as the bank increases. For lay bets, although we no longer favour them, we would always lay to win the same fixed amount every time.

    You will of course need to paper test any theory you decide to follow up although for the sake of historical data we always use closing odds as our standard benchmark. Nothing wrong with opening odds as long as you then place your bets at the start of the market too – just more time-consuming to collect that data manually and from my observations, opening odds only provide the largest odds available during ante post for some odds on favourites and rank outsiders only.

    Hope this helps!

  2. @Right Winger

    Thanks for answering my Inflection Points for Home Wins for the English Championship question.

    [Another Question]
    I have keep track and stored in my database all the opening odds of my local bookmaker over 1.5 years for all leagues offered. I been thinking to devise a 1X2 bet system based on opening odds.

    Eg. EPL Match 01: 1:$1.90 X:$3.10 2:$3.20
    I will search my database for similar opening odds of the SME league -> EPL and calculate how many times EACH home win, draw and away win occurs for all similar opening odds.

    I then convert frequency% to Fraction x current live odds.
    Eg. Total home win occurs 60% for all such similar odds = 0.6
    Current live odds offered for home is $1.70 (dropped from $1.90)
    Current Value bet = $1.7 * 0.6 = 1.02
    Then I use kelly bet formula to calculate a optimized bet stack.

    Did you do this before, do you think it will work? What are your views?

  3. Hello Mike,

    Regarding lower leagues, see my response above dated 25 September, point 1.

    Because the demand for bets in lower leagues is far less than premier leagues, bookmakers tend to reduce odds across the board.

    The trend you have seen in the English Championship is a combination of these reduced odds and higher ‘statistical noise’ created by the fact that there is promotion and relegation in lower leagues. A greater turnover of teams over five seasons certainly affects the results distributions, as fewer teams are ‘ever-present’ during those five seasons.

    If you want my advice, stick to the top leagues in each country only.

  4. Hello,

    I have been following your articles on 1×2 betting and was able to create and find my own tables from which I produced an inflection points graph.

    I manage to create the graph for Inflection Points for Home Wins for the English Championship using my own data-set. However, as you can see, the graph is towards downward trend all the way.

    In such cases, where is the inflection points?

  5. Hi MustWin,

    1. The problem with lower leagues is that they are not very popular with the majority of punters and bookmakers underprice these leagues across the board as a result. When it comes to preparing HDAFU tables for lower leagues, you invariably find red numbers in every bet type. This would indicate these leagues are ideal for laying but of course they are not popular in Betfair either – the prices you find there can never lead to long term profits.

    2. Time is of the essence – we simply have no time to turn these things into a jack-of-all-trades (although it would be nice!). I agree, Asians would be very interesting to see when extrapolated over five seasons.

    3. I cannot guarantee anything at the moment. The HDAFU tables are the pinnacle of insight when it comes to deciding what to bet on but very few people seem interested in them. We do not know whether these will be continued in the future. A huge amount of time goes into them and it’s simply not paying I’m afraid.

    Thanks for your questions and for your interest in Soccerwidow.

  6. Hi Soccerwidow / Right Winger,

    again, i have also a question Nr. 3:

    Will you make a tutorial for the adaption of the summerleague HDAFU Tabels for the new season then the seasons are all over? It would be very useful. Or a reduce fee for the buyers of the last seasons tabels for the new tables?

  7. Hi Soccerwidow / Right Winger,
    first of all gratulation for the fantastic HDAFU Tables! I have brought a lot of them and use them to paper-test a new system. I want to know two different aspects:

    1. Can we all accept more HDAFU Tables in the near future like English minor leagues, Austria, Poland, Belgium, Russia, Switzerland, Denmark, Greece, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Hungary, Scotland… ?

    2. What is about Asian Handicaps in the HDAFU Tables? I think where will be a lot of systems to invent from.

    1. Hi Dirk,

      we are in the process of getting the HDA tables ready… Another 2-3 days, and everything will be online and ready for sale.

  8. Hello Right Winger!

    I want to analyse the half-time markets, but I can’t find a site which shows the half-time results and odds. From where you got the Australian A-league half-time results and odds?

    I know odds-portal has these results and odds but only if you can just click each and every one matches to see.

    It would be good find a site from where we copy the whole results and odds as one, like we did it with the full time results and odds.

    Regards,

    Falconer

  9. Hi

    Are these tables not available for the English Premier League, I can’t find them anywhere can only see the summer leagues

    Cheers

  10. Hello,

    Thanks for your answers!
    Meanwhile I observed your previous ‘profit sectors’ free excel table, and I’m thinking that it would be ideal to collect the larger soccer leagues (12-15 of them) and in each league we just bet on by odds clusters (4-5 clusters groups in each league, which are profitable). We got 60-75 single bets, and for a single weekend we share this amount of bets to 3 days (for friday and the rest of the weekend). This size of portfolio is enough to reduce the lost cause by some ‘weaker’ (not follow the supposed statistical pattern by any reason) clusters? The average 10-20% profit could be realizable with this kind and size of portfolio?

    Thanks,

    Falconer

    1. Hi Falconer,

      Yes, this is effectively what we do. By removing the unprofitable odds clusters at one or both ends of the list (sorted by odds or odds ratios), we end up with the most profitable sector and bet on every game within the calculated parameters.

      10-20% is a good average return although some systems we employ in some of the leagues we use return a whole lot more than this. Some systems fail but these are supported by the winning leagues.

      The only time consuming thing is that at the end of each season, the match selection process has to be repeated by inputting the new season’s results and removing the old fifth season back to once again base calculations on five full seasons of results.

      The “winter” league HDA tables will be available from around the beginning of June. Our own ‘season’ starts at the beginning of March each year – no other reason than personal preference and the fact that the “summer” leagues begin to kick-off around this time.

      Thanks again for your contribution and good luck with your own analysis.

  11. Hello again Falconer,

    Personally speaking, we concentrate on bet types such as the home win, or the favourite at home, or the underdog away, rather than betting on individual teams. Our analyses are always performed by filtering out the unprofitable areas of a promising bet type highlighted by the HDA tables.

    With ROI, I did explain in the text below the “Backing the Underdog” video that the ROI calculation was a very simplified one just to get the point across – have another look at it and click on the link provided there to find the full ROI explanation.

    Combining many profitable systems based on odds clusters or odds ratios is the way to go in my opinion. Not only does it concentrate efforts on the ‘sweet spot’ in each league but it also compromises unavoidable losing streaks.

    With the number of systems we have running together the chances that all bets in all systems lose in any given round of matches is pretty remote (less than one-tenth of one per cent), so the larger the portfolio of matches, the more they support each other.

    I hope this helps and thanks again for your valuable contributions.

  12. Hello Soccerwidow!

    I found your site and articles very valuable, thanks for your efforts!

    With my little excel knowledge I created my own HDA tables and l had been looking for teams, and odds clusters, patterns which could be profitable to bet on.
    After filled with the datas (with average odds from Betbrain and betexplorer), I studied the tables. First I studied the teams, and for example in the English Premier League from 2009-14 Everton made a profit at home in each season (backing the home team bet option). I made an add-up for my excel which shows the current season, and I noticed that so far in this season Everton not so strong at home, and it seems that in this year it would not be profitable to bet home win for this team.
    Of course I know that this is only one example and this season hasn’t been over yet, but my question is that: Is it a safer or better way not to bet on teams but bet on by odds clusters or bet on by ratios? Cause every year the teams’ conditions changes (new coach, a lot of injured players, etc) and I observed that the odds clusters not changes dramatically from year to year maybe.

    Another question: I want to expand my tables with yield and ROI columns, and how I calculate the Roi when for example from 10 played matches 10 home wins happened? I watch the Australian HT market video tutorial and according to that calculation in my example the roi= net profit/(10-10)*lost matches stakes, which is 0. So am I wrong with this calculation?

    Thanks in advance for your answer!

    Regards,

    Falconer

  13. I would like to know if there is possible to have 2 small changes in the tables:

    (1) Change ‘-‘ with ‘0’ for the year the team did not played
    (2) On the total P/L formula change SUM(2014,2013,2012,2011,2010) to ‘2014+(2013*0.9)+(2012*0.8)+(2011*0.7)+(2010*0.6)’

    Thanks

    1. The tables are set up to show “-“ when there is no information for that team in that season (i.e. they did not play that season), and shows “0” when the team has played during the season, makes profit, but registers less than 1 unit profit.

      With the passwords in every data tab, you can unlock the sheets you wish to change and make your own alterations to the formulas as and where you see fit.

      Pro rating the profit/loss columns is certainly an interesting suggestion. I will look into this when the next upgrade is due. Thanks!

  14. Many thanks for the spreadsheets. They are very useful.

    I see you removed the lay options, they were very useful in some cases.

    And is there any chance to add more leagues? I will certainly buy the table if you add more…

    1. Many thanks for your repeat custom! 🙂

      We can do any of the following:

      Greece Super League
      Scottish Divisions 1, 2 & 3
      English League 1, 2 & Conference

      We definitely have 8 more leagues coming up when their seasons finish. These leagues are:

      Brazil Serie A
      Finland Veikkausliiga
      Iceland Urvalsdeild (a particular goldmine)
      League of Ireland Premier
      Japan J-League
      Norway Tippeligaen
      Sweden Allsvenskan
      USA MLS

      As we have a lot of Australian readers, the A-League is also a possibility, but this does not start again for a few months.

      Regarding lay bets, the tables tell you what not to bet on, so if you are keen on lay betting strategies, you will know by default what to concentrate on – although lay betting for us is purely of interest in-play as ante-post prices are too high and exchange commission has to be paid on winnings, which makes it hard to make decent profits and avoid peaks and troughs in the profit curve.

      1. About the additional tables, I was thinking more on the other Central and Eastern European countries, Japan or Latin America (when the new season starts). I don’t know how much one can bet on a Scottish 3rd division game. Is it possible to change the Scottish 3rd and 2nd division with any other main European Leagues (ex: Austria, Poland, Romania, Russia, etc.)? And if it’s possible to do more than 7 leagues I am very interested.

        1. We can certainly look into some of the Central and Eastern European countries you suggest. However, Romania is one that we wouldn’t bet on personally as our contacts there tell us that match fixing is so rife that the league is a sham.

          Austria, Poland, Russia, Switzerland, Denmark, Greece, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, and Hungary are all possibilities. We will add them within the next few days and let you know.

          Take care and best wishes,
          Soccerwidow

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