22 February 2025

8 thoughts on “Over/Under Goals Market – Betting with Cluster Tables

  1. Hi,

    I am doing some research on this subject. Do you have any reference to the maths used in these methods? Regards

    1. Hi Thomas, the maths behind it is an analysis of the past distribution to predict the future distribution. Here’s a preview of my coursebook that includes the table of contents. It should give you a very good idea about the maths behind the cluster tables. Best wishes, Soccerwidow

  2. Dear Soccerwidow,
    I am making some back testing using the cluster tables you sent me when I bought your (fantastic) book. I have a question about the time when the data have been gathered, in particular in your prior notes you say that odds for the week end are taken on friday before while odds for mid week are taken on monday. For the matches of Friday and Monday evening which odds do I have to use? Furthermore, football-data web site says that odds for mid week are taken on Tuesday, is it incorrect?
    Thank you and best regards.

    1. Hi Giampietro,

      Thank you for taking the time and trouble to contact us and also for your kind words about the Soccerwidow Odds Calculation Course.

      Yes, it looks from Football-data’s notes that they do now collect midweek odds data on a Tuesday, which would apply for games played on Tue/Wed/Thu only.

      For clarification purposes, this change won’t make any difference to the efficacy of the tables. The relationship between the home and away odds doesn’t change much through the whole ante-post (pre-kick-off) market period because the draw odds are used as the pivot to balance the book.

      You will find that if home odds change, a simultaneous proportionate change will be noticed in the away odds, which will change the HO/AO quotient (home odds divided by away odds), but because of the wide margins covered by each cluster, it is rare that a shift in the quotient result will actually mean that the match in question moves to a different cluster.

      We do mention in various sections of the blog relating to the Cluster Tables that results seen close to the margins of two clusters should be monitored until kick-off or even avoided altogether to prevent uncertainty.

      Of course, ultimately, if you experience matches skewed into different cluster groups by moving odds as time elapses closer to kick-off, you can back out of the bets. Alternatively, just accept that some of these ‘misplaced’ wagers will win and some will lose. In the long-run, any anomalies will tend to even themselves out and should not affect the overall result detrimentally.

      I hope this all makes sense and thanks for the question.

      Best regards and happy hunting!

  3. Thanks for the reply.

    I hope I will explain my quey better now by this I meant,

    How do you calculate this margins
    Using your example the match between Manchester and Liverpool

    Manchester.
    0.000-0.1090
    0.1091-0.1640
    0.1641-0.3955
    0.3956-100.00

    Liverpool
    100.00-2.7406
    2.7405-1.8511
    1.8510-0.8446
    0.8445-0.0000

    How do you calculate this margins or what mathematical approach do you use. Because I can see they are different for each team?

    Thank you and kind regards.

    1. Hi James, behind the bookmakers’ businesses and them calculating their odds for reliable success and the Cluster Tables (that have been developed with the view of helping the punter to find an edge) stands a sound mathematical/statistical concept but unfortunately, it is impossible to understand it without working through our comprehensive course book. Nevertheless, I will try to answer your question although it is not unlikely to raise more questions.

      Firstly, you need to understand the concept of the HO/AO quotient: It’s putting the match into comparative perspective with past games. For the match Man Utd vs. Liverpool the HO/AO quotient was 1.26, suggesting that public perception of the event was that the draw was probably the most likely outcome. The home odds of Manchester United were 3.30. Liverpool’s away odds were 2.61.

      Secondly, the cluster groups… Man Utd, playing at home, had in the previous five years not many games being priced as high as in this particular example. They are normally priced as the favourites at home, pricing the away team as the underdog. Hence, this match grouped in the last cluster (0.3956-100.00); Liverpool on the other hand was in 50% of the matches from the past five years the favourite when playing away. The match in the article therefore belonged into the third cluster group (1.8510-0.8446).

      The grouping itself is simply done by splitting the past 95 games into four equally sized clusters, distinguishing between teams playing at home and teams playing away. Using the HO/AO quotient is the easiest way to compare upcoming matches with past results. You have teams that are usually the favourite at home (like Man Utd in this example) and sometimes they are playing a team that is equally strong when they are playing away (e.g. Liverpool). Other times the away team isn’t as strong.

      Read a little bit more about the quotient and it’s use here: Finding a System Using the HO/AO Quotient Although this isn’t an article related to the Cluster Tables but is extends on the HO/AO explanations. So it may help you to understand the concept.

    1. Hi James, I don’t know if I understood you question right but I will try…

      The matches of each team are split in four (more or less) equally sized groups.

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